[Nah, it's fine that Chuuya can't take orders from Dazai to figuratively save his life, really. He knows when to do it when his life literally depends on it, and that is enough. The rest, they seem to have sorted out over the years. But life's no fun if you can't push your luck every now and then, is it?]
We'll save it for a special occasion, then. [It's going to happen! At some point!! Before he dies!!!
What else do they have to get through... Ah.]
Lifestyle rules is not an option, I presume?
[That's not a complaint, really. They both lead complicated lives that can't deal with too many restrictions, especially Chuuya.]
[Not when it comes to getting his way. Dazai never gives up on getting his way. And maybe Chuuya shouldn't call him out on giving up on getting what he actually wants... or maybe he's projecting. But Dazai shouldn't give up on something before they've even started to talk about it at all.
He manages (mostly, debatably) to keep his voice dismissive as he says it, at least. A small shield in case Dazai turns it back on him. And he won't complain about moving on down the list.]
[Dazai technically wasn't giving up, since he doesn't care that much about the whole idea - just for the record!! But he'll drop that discussion in favor of taking advantage of the opening offered.
Well, if they're doing this, Dazai is at least going to be reasonable about it. He may be the most unreasonable man alive, but he's still not looking to get Chuuya killed, or even in trouble with Mori. (Dazai will poke that badger himself when he feels like it, it's fine.)]
Underwear or lack thereof?
[Starting simple, because Chuuya isn't averse to lingerie as it is.]
Maybe writing on your body? Under your clothes, of course.
["DAZAI WAS HERE LOL" across his ass~! ... Okay, not really that, but. Even Dazai putting his name somewhere innocent would be fun. Or making Chuuya write things himself, if it comes to that!]
Maybe not playing with yourself for a while, too.
[Chuuya is perfectly capable of that, Dazai is sure. But it's different when you're not allowed, and you're thinking about how you're not allowed, isn't it?]
[Chuuya isn't surprised that Dazai has so many ideas right off the bat, because ideas are what the bastard is good at. He's really not sure how to react, though. He stares at Dazai for a second, shifting a little on the couch, because he's thinking about the idea of not being allowed right now and it's getting to him. Not to mention the idea of being marked by Dazai, or letting him control even the hidden parts of Chuuya's appearance. It would be a constant reminder throughout the day that it's Dazai he belongs to.
That would have Dazai thinking about him, too, wouldn't it? If he knew Chuuya was walking around like that for him?]
So anything that's not visible?
[That covers a lot more than just underwear or body writing, but for once Chuuya doesn't mind giving Dazai more to work with. It might backfire. It will definitely backfire. But there's no way to avoid that if they're doing this - that's sort of the point.]
Surprised you didn't suggest controlling my orgasms completely. [When he can't have one, and when he will have one, because Dazai definitely likes making him come when he doesn't want to as well.] It's rules, right? So I'm not just agreeing to a one time thing?
[Control Chuuya's orgasms, that is. Technically he doesn't, sure, but in practice? He'd wager good money that Chuuya thinks about him when he's masturbating, too. (Clearly that is also control, in a way!)
But it's fine, it's fine, they don't have to get all nitpicky about definitions. They both know what they know.]
Maybe later, then. [Full orgasm control. It seems more entertaining for brief periods of time than for a rule that applies always and everywhere. That makes the whole thing seem too much like a job!]
But yes: anything that's not visible, and not practically restrictive in any meaningful way.
[That's a no to real physical restrictions - barring anything used for orgasm control, maybe - but a yes to bondage under clothing that's mostly aesthetic. That's not going to hamper Chuuya's workaholic self too much, surely?]
[He definitely kind of does, but Dazai having a point doesn't mean Chuuya has to acknowledge it. Even if it doesn't even matter by now, if he's outright giving Dazai that power over him anyway.
And he does know Dazai wouldn't want to control it all the time. It has less of an impact, then, which would make it less fun for him. For both of them, maybe. The last thing Chuuya wants is for Dazai to think of any of this as some sort of chore. It takes away from what it should be - even if he has no fucking clue what exactly that is, and would still prefer not to try to figure that out. It's just them.]
Yeah. When you feel like it.
[He really shouldn't give Dazai this kind of power, but they both know he already has.]
That gives you a lot to work with. I'm going to regret this.
[They do both know it, and yet that somehow, quite miraculously, doesn't make the whole idea boring to Dazai. It's funny how his definitely-not-but-actually-indeed-a-relationship with Chuuya has always been that way. Other exceptions over his entire, miserable lifespan can be counted on one hand, and they've certainly never lasted this long. But it's probably better to just take that as a fact, and not think too much on it.]
You absolutely are.
[Very cheerfully, which is honestly warranted. Dazai is going to have a great time just thinking of all his options, here!]
This calls for a celebration!
[They should probably get to the rest of that kink list, but ehhhh, Dazai has scored a big win; he'd just as soon skip the rest.]
[That cheerful tone should probably worry Chuuya. Instead he finds himself wanting to return the smile, ducking his head a little to hide his expression. He's weirdly pleased that Dazai is so pleased. Inevitable regret or not, Chuuya knows what he's getting himself into, which means he wanted to give him this.]
What kind of celebration?
[Chuuya still has things on that list he's curious about, for one reason or another. But the section about rules, about their dynamic outside of actual scenes, was definitely the most important one. They've somehow managed without ever outright talking about their kinks up until now, so it's probably fine. He won't insist if Dazai is ready to move on.
Besides, they can pick it up again another day, maybe.]
Not like you can really test out your new powers yet.
[Nah, not really. But he can lowkey threaten otherwise, just a little. He could send Chuuya out for something after some quick preparations, after all!
But that's not what he has in mind at the moment.]
I suppose I'd settle for a drink.
[There's no settling; that was his only "plan", really. But, look, he was cranky when he got here, and now he's in a lovely mood. A celebration is in order, surely?]
-- You probably could. [Better not to challenge Dazai.] But it won't have the same effect if we're just staying here.
[Of course he'll wear lingerie if Dazai tells him to, or let Dazai write on him... actually, that one might still end up getting to Chuuya, depending on what Dazai writes.
There's no point in worrying about that, though, not after he already agreed. He stands up, and goes to refill Dazai's glass for him, even though serving him was nowhere on the list of things they agreed on. But maybe he's feeling nice. Maybe it's an excuse so that when he sits down again, he can sit close enough that leaning into him seems almost accidental. He grabs his earlier wine glass off the table again, and takes a sip.]
[Just because they're here, that doesn't mean they have to stay here! But Chuuya needn't worry: Dazai isn't super dedicated to that idea. He's feeling surprisingly all right, and it's nice to be here together, somehow. How that works when they're not even doing anything is a mystery - but most mysteries, Dazai has come to find, are better left unsolved.
Accepting his glass, Dazai takes a sip, waiting for Chuuya to settle close by before putting his arm around him, leaning in for a soft whisper.]
This is why you should wear a maid costume.
[Such a good maid! Bit of a mouth on him, though.
Bit of an elbow too. So please don't break his ribs, he meant it as a compliment!!]
[But Dazai could send him out. With the mood Chuuya is in now, he'd most likely obey, even though he doesn't actually want to go anywhere. But it feels good to not always be fighting Dazai on everything, too. This thing between them feels right.
But that doesn't mean he'll go along with absolutely anything Dazai might come up with. And Chuuya nearly spits out his wine when Dazai mentions the maid outfit.]
I wasn't--
[Serving him like some maid, or anything like that!! He was just being nice!! He sets his wine glass down to protect it from getting spilled, since apparently drinking it is too risky for now.]
Even if I agree to everything else, that's the one thing I'll keep saying no to.
[That would be funny, but not exactly a source of arousal for Dazai. That's fine, though: as long as he keeps the stakes going higher and higher, eventually that maid outfit isn't going to seem so bad anymore.
This isn't the time and place to push things, though, and he raises his hands - glass and all - immediately after his question.]
It was rhetorical! Purely rhetorical...
We can talk about it more some other time.
[He's definitely going to keep bringing it up. But he'll drop it for now, it's fine!]
[Clearly Chuuya is Prince Charming to Dazai's Snow White! Not that he wants to be Prince Charming, either, since that doesn't go well at all with the Port Mafia image.
And he really doesn't trust Dazai when he says it's rhetorical. Maybe it it for now, but it might not stay that way, especially if that's what he's planning to use to convince Chuuya to wear a maid outfit instead. It might be easier, in the long run, to just wear the damn thing for him, get the inevitable over with, but even if he did Dazai would just come up with something else anyway. He never runs out of ideas to torture Chuuya... And if he did, that would honestly be worse.]
Let's talk about biting instead.
[That's on the list, too, and Chuuya is a fan! Also is it safe to reach for his wine glass again? He's gonna reach for his wine glass again.]
If I'm already a princess, why would I need the dress?
[That, or he's trying to reverse-psychology Chuuya into wearing a maid outfit anyway. But he's still playing the long game, there. He's in no rush.
That said, he would absolutely dress like a princess for maid!Chuuya to serve. Dazai knows no shame; he really doesn't care what he wears.
Biting, however...]
... Aren't you taking being my dog a little too seriously?
[For some reason, he's just going to assume that Chuuya is the one doing the biting, because clearly Dazai is the one obsessed about the dog thing. Regardless, it's not a hard no, really. Dazai just doesn't super see the appeal.
Wine away, though. They're having a good talk; it's fine.]
You don't need it, but you can't let anyone else wear it, either.
[Clearly that makes sense! Or something. Not that Chuuya wouldn't wear a dress, but a princess dress isn't exactly his style.
But Chuuya really isn't winning this argument, on any front. They're back to the dog thing, and he almost objects out of habit, and there's a slight but obvious pause as he tries to get himself back on track. They don't actually have to argue here, and he doesn't really want to, anyway. He's too comfortable leaning against Dazai's side. He wants all of this, and he doesn't have to pretend not to.]
How else is a dog supposed to punish a shitty owner?
[His tone is teasing. He only brought up biting as another distraction from various dresses, anyway, he knows it's not Dazai's thing.]
Can't I be one of those rebellious princesses who rejects gender norms?
[Ignoring how those often strengthen stereotypes more than anything... The point is: Dazai can totally give his dress away, symbolically!
But the more important point is: they're having a nice time, with each other, and with drinks. It's hard to think of anything that would make the moment better - and that's strange, really, but Dazai chooses not to question it.]
The owner is the one who does the punishing. Some dogs even enjoy that, as I recall.
[It's still not a "no" on the biting, really. But giving an outright "yes" feels a bit awkward, like something slipping out of Dazai's control. That's fine, really, but what if it doesn't work out, and he can't take it back? It's easier to be the one nominally in charge, even if it also means more effort, technically.]
[So of course Dazai would reject that one, too. And who has ever been able to stop him from rejecting anything?
It really is a nice time, though. Chuuya sips his wine, relaxing more against Dazai, enjoying the shared warmth of their bodies. He'll even pull his legs up a little. Even if the topic keeps encroaching on potentially embarrassing territory, it's not like he's revealing anything new for Dazai, so he's not about to let that get him on edge. Beyond maybe making him blush a little.]
Definitely not. I mean --
[He has to stop himself again. He's not actually looking at the list anymore, but he remembers it had something about serious punishment and finding forgiveness, and that's something they've always done anyway, when one of them has crossed an actual line. But the idea of that being somehow part of this type of dynamic is a definite turn off. It's different.
But there was also something about play punishment and penalties. That's more like something Dazai would actually do. The bastard is always changing the rules, and he loves making those rules something humiliating. He's definitely given Chuuya a few impossible tasks before. And Chuuya always finds himself trying really hard to complete them anyway.]
The point of punishment is that it shouldn't be enjoyable, right?
[So maybe he enjoys it. As long as it's not something they take too seriously.]
[A blushing Chuuya is a good Chuuya. Dazai makes sure not to be too obvious about how he's taking in the sights. He doesn't really care if Chuuya is blushing because of him or because of the wine, anyway; it's a good look, and it belongs only to him right now. Clearly that is the important thing.]
Are you saying I should punish you in ways you won't enjoy?
[Because he can do that, of course. He's something of an expert, as it happens. But it's definitely a case of being careful what you wish for!
Not that Dazai really thinks that that's what Chuuya wants, but he can pretend.]
[It's definitely not what he meant. Chuuya shoots Dazai a look, because he knows that he knows. Just because Chuuya doesn't directly say what he means...]
Obviously not.
[That doesn't sound fun for either of them, really. Sure, there's a long list of things Chuuya sort of enjoys, or hates that he enjoys, or enjoys because he doesn't want to enjoy them, or that he wouldn't enjoy except that it's the right kind of humiliation and he enjoys that. But Dazai has always considered all of those fair game, so it's definitely not what he's getting at now.]
I thought I said I was the one who should punish you.
[The point of this was to actually discuss what they like, which would mean Chuuya has to be honest about it... Oh well.]
If you really wanted to, I probably couldn't stop you.
[But Chuuya doesn't like that, does he? ... Or does he? Nah, that would surprise Dazai a great deal.
Also: Dazai is a wuss, and definitely couldn't withstand Chuuya's full-on punishment. But he really doesn't think that Chuuya is being honest here? And he doesn't think he's somehow in denial about what Chuuya wants from him, either??
Though blindsiding him with something like this would have been a good reason for Chuuya to bring up kink lists, Dazai supposes... Damn.]
[Chuuya looks a bit surprised at that statement. Not because it's not true - of course it is, Chuuya is by far the strongest of the two of them - but because it's completely irrelevant. Of course he doesn't want that.]
I'll stick to biting. Even if I risk getting punished by you for it.
[Okay, maybe he should be honest. He drinks a bit more of his wine, and leans a little bit more of his weight into Dazai. Honesty really is too awkward.]
Nothing actually serious, right? It's just something else to use in your games?
[Which is probably a bit too cryptic a reply to be very satisfying, considering the circumstances, but honesty is too awkward. They've been making good strides with it, but Dazai, being a lazy bastard by nature, is already not in the mood to keep putting in the effort.
That doesn't mean he won't, though, and it certainly doesn't mean he's not in a surprisingly good mood. In fact, as Chuuya leans in closer, Dazai shifts a little so he can halfway put his arm around him, hand resting on his head.
Okay, so maybe one of his several simultaneous inner monologues is loudly singing YOU'RE A SHORT MOTHERFUCKER AND NOBODY LIKES YOU~ - but it's singing it lovingly, okay!? You're his short motherfucker nobody likes, and that's what matters.]
["Nothing actually serious" isn't very descriptive either, so Chuuya really has no room to complain about Dazai being cryptic. Besides, he's not worried about it. It's not like they're trying to fully establish all boundaries and desires right now - that would be boring and limiting - so they can always clarify when it becomes relevant. And he trusts Dazai.
He drops his head against Dazai's shoulder, enjoying that hand against his hair. Dazai's not the only one in a surprisingly good mood now. Chuuya is relaxed enough to be smiling, just a little.]
This really just ended up as me giving you more options...
[That's probably not how kink negotiations are supposed to go. Oh well.]
[He's not even being smug about it, for once. What else was this discussion going to be about, if not more things to try? The things they've already done, Chuuya has all enjoyed to some degree; Dazai has no doubt about that. So expanding their repertoire was really the only possible outcome.
But let's blame Chuuya for giving him more options, sure. Give a dog a bone(r), and all that. Dazai's fingers play lazily with Chuuya's hair.]
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[Nah, it's fine that Chuuya can't take orders from Dazai to figuratively save his life, really. He knows when to do it when his life literally depends on it, and that is enough. The rest, they seem to have sorted out over the years. But life's no fun if you can't push your luck every now and then, is it?]
We'll save it for a special occasion, then. [It's going to happen! At some point!! Before he dies!!!
What else do they have to get through... Ah.]
Lifestyle rules is not an option, I presume?
[That's not a complaint, really. They both lead complicated lives that can't deal with too many restrictions, especially Chuuya.]
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[Not when it comes to getting his way. Dazai never gives up on getting his way. And maybe Chuuya shouldn't call him out on giving up on getting what he actually wants... or maybe he's projecting. But Dazai shouldn't give up on something before they've even started to talk about it at all.
He manages (mostly, debatably) to keep his voice dismissive as he says it, at least. A small shield in case Dazai turns it back on him. And he won't complain about moving on down the list.]
What kind of rules?
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Well, if they're doing this, Dazai is at least going to be reasonable about it. He may be the most unreasonable man alive, but he's still not looking to get Chuuya killed, or even in trouble with Mori. (Dazai will poke that badger himself when he feels like it, it's fine.)]
Underwear or lack thereof?
[Starting simple, because Chuuya isn't averse to lingerie as it is.]
Maybe writing on your body? Under your clothes, of course.
["DAZAI WAS HERE LOL" across his ass~! ... Okay, not really that, but. Even Dazai putting his name somewhere innocent would be fun. Or making Chuuya write things himself, if it comes to that!]
Maybe not playing with yourself for a while, too.
[Chuuya is perfectly capable of that, Dazai is sure. But it's different when you're not allowed, and you're thinking about how you're not allowed, isn't it?]
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That would have Dazai thinking about him, too, wouldn't it? If he knew Chuuya was walking around like that for him?]
So anything that's not visible?
[That covers a lot more than just underwear or body writing, but for once Chuuya doesn't mind giving Dazai more to work with. It might backfire. It will definitely backfire. But there's no way to avoid that if they're doing this - that's sort of the point.]
Surprised you didn't suggest controlling my orgasms completely. [When he can't have one, and when he will have one, because Dazai definitely likes making him come when he doesn't want to as well.] It's rules, right? So I'm not just agreeing to a one time thing?
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[Control Chuuya's orgasms, that is. Technically he doesn't, sure, but in practice? He'd wager good money that Chuuya thinks about him when he's masturbating, too. (Clearly that is also control, in a way!)
But it's fine, it's fine, they don't have to get all nitpicky about definitions. They both know what they know.]
Maybe later, then. [Full orgasm control. It seems more entertaining for brief periods of time than for a rule that applies always and everywhere. That makes the whole thing seem too much like a job!]
But yes: anything that's not visible, and not practically restrictive in any meaningful way.
[That's a no to real physical restrictions - barring anything used for orgasm control, maybe - but a yes to bondage under clothing that's mostly aesthetic. That's not going to hamper Chuuya's workaholic self too much, surely?]
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[He definitely kind of does, but Dazai having a point doesn't mean Chuuya has to acknowledge it. Even if it doesn't even matter by now, if he's outright giving Dazai that power over him anyway.
And he does know Dazai wouldn't want to control it all the time. It has less of an impact, then, which would make it less fun for him. For both of them, maybe. The last thing Chuuya wants is for Dazai to think of any of this as some sort of chore. It takes away from what it should be - even if he has no fucking clue what exactly that is, and would still prefer not to try to figure that out. It's just them.]
Yeah. When you feel like it.
[He really shouldn't give Dazai this kind of power, but they both know he already has.]
That gives you a lot to work with. I'm going to regret this.
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You absolutely are.
[Very cheerfully, which is honestly warranted. Dazai is going to have a great time just thinking of all his options, here!]
This calls for a celebration!
[They should probably get to the rest of that kink list, but ehhhh, Dazai has scored a big win; he'd just as soon skip the rest.]
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What kind of celebration?
[Chuuya still has things on that list he's curious about, for one reason or another. But the section about rules, about their dynamic outside of actual scenes, was definitely the most important one. They've somehow managed without ever outright talking about their kinks up until now, so it's probably fine. He won't insist if Dazai is ready to move on.
Besides, they can pick it up again another day, maybe.]
Not like you can really test out your new powers yet.
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[Nah, not really. But he can lowkey threaten otherwise, just a little. He could send Chuuya out for something after some quick preparations, after all!
But that's not what he has in mind at the moment.]
I suppose I'd settle for a drink.
[There's no settling; that was his only "plan", really. But, look, he was cranky when he got here, and now he's in a lovely mood. A celebration is in order, surely?]
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[Of course he'll wear lingerie if Dazai tells him to, or let Dazai write on him... actually, that one might still end up getting to Chuuya, depending on what Dazai writes.
There's no point in worrying about that, though, not after he already agreed. He stands up, and goes to refill Dazai's glass for him, even though serving him was nowhere on the list of things they agreed on. But maybe he's feeling nice. Maybe it's an excuse so that when he sits down again, he can sit close enough that leaning into him seems almost accidental. He grabs his earlier wine glass off the table again, and takes a sip.]
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[Just because they're here, that doesn't mean they have to stay here! But Chuuya needn't worry: Dazai isn't super dedicated to that idea. He's feeling surprisingly all right, and it's nice to be here together, somehow. How that works when they're not even doing anything is a mystery - but most mysteries, Dazai has come to find, are better left unsolved.
Accepting his glass, Dazai takes a sip, waiting for Chuuya to settle close by before putting his arm around him, leaning in for a soft whisper.]
This is why you should wear a maid costume.
[Such a good maid! Bit of a mouth on him, though.
Bit of an elbow too. So please don't break his ribs, he meant it as a compliment!!]
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[But Dazai could send him out. With the mood Chuuya is in now, he'd most likely obey, even though he doesn't actually want to go anywhere. But it feels good to not always be fighting Dazai on everything, too. This thing between them feels right.
But that doesn't mean he'll go along with absolutely anything Dazai might come up with. And Chuuya nearly spits out his wine when Dazai mentions the maid outfit.]
I wasn't--
[Serving him like some maid, or anything like that!! He was just being nice!! He sets his wine glass down to protect it from getting spilled, since apparently drinking it is too risky for now.]
Even if I agree to everything else, that's the one thing I'll keep saying no to.
[Just because!!]
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[That would be funny, but not exactly a source of arousal for Dazai. That's fine, though: as long as he keeps the stakes going higher and higher, eventually that maid outfit isn't going to seem so bad anymore.
This isn't the time and place to push things, though, and he raises his hands - glass and all - immediately after his question.]
It was rhetorical! Purely rhetorical...
We can talk about it more some other time.
[He's definitely going to keep bringing it up. But he'll drop it for now, it's fine!]
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[Clearly Chuuya is Prince Charming to Dazai's Snow White! Not that he wants to be Prince Charming, either, since that doesn't go well at all with the Port Mafia image.
And he really doesn't trust Dazai when he says it's rhetorical. Maybe it it for now, but it might not stay that way, especially if that's what he's planning to use to convince Chuuya to wear a maid outfit instead. It might be easier, in the long run, to just wear the damn thing for him, get the inevitable over with, but even if he did Dazai would just come up with something else anyway. He never runs out of ideas to torture Chuuya... And if he did, that would honestly be worse.]
Let's talk about biting instead.
[That's on the list, too, and Chuuya is a fan! Also is it safe to reach for his wine glass again? He's gonna reach for his wine glass again.]
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[That, or he's trying to reverse-psychology Chuuya into wearing a maid outfit anyway. But he's still playing the long game, there. He's in no rush.
That said, he would absolutely dress like a princess for maid!Chuuya to serve. Dazai knows no shame; he really doesn't care what he wears.
Biting, however...]
... Aren't you taking being my dog a little too seriously?
[For some reason, he's just going to assume that Chuuya is the one doing the biting, because clearly Dazai is the one obsessed about the dog thing. Regardless, it's not a hard no, really. Dazai just doesn't super see the appeal.
Wine away, though. They're having a good talk; it's fine.]
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[Clearly that makes sense! Or something. Not that Chuuya wouldn't wear a dress, but a princess dress isn't exactly his style.
But Chuuya really isn't winning this argument, on any front. They're back to the dog thing, and he almost objects out of habit, and there's a slight but obvious pause as he tries to get himself back on track. They don't actually have to argue here, and he doesn't really want to, anyway. He's too comfortable leaning against Dazai's side. He wants all of this, and he doesn't have to pretend not to.]
How else is a dog supposed to punish a shitty owner?
[His tone is teasing. He only brought up biting as another distraction from various dresses, anyway, he knows it's not Dazai's thing.]
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[Ignoring how those often strengthen stereotypes more than anything... The point is: Dazai can totally give his dress away, symbolically!
But the more important point is: they're having a nice time, with each other, and with drinks. It's hard to think of anything that would make the moment better - and that's strange, really, but Dazai chooses not to question it.]
The owner is the one who does the punishing. Some dogs even enjoy that, as I recall.
[It's still not a "no" on the biting, really. But giving an outright "yes" feels a bit awkward, like something slipping out of Dazai's control. That's fine, really, but what if it doesn't work out, and he can't take it back? It's easier to be the one nominally in charge, even if it also means more effort, technically.]
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[So of course Dazai would reject that one, too. And who has ever been able to stop him from rejecting anything?
It really is a nice time, though. Chuuya sips his wine, relaxing more against Dazai, enjoying the shared warmth of their bodies. He'll even pull his legs up a little. Even if the topic keeps encroaching on potentially embarrassing territory, it's not like he's revealing anything new for Dazai, so he's not about to let that get him on edge. Beyond maybe making him blush a little.]
Definitely not. I mean --
[He has to stop himself again. He's not actually looking at the list anymore, but he remembers it had something about serious punishment and finding forgiveness, and that's something they've always done anyway, when one of them has crossed an actual line. But the idea of that being somehow part of this type of dynamic is a definite turn off. It's different.
But there was also something about play punishment and penalties. That's more like something Dazai would actually do. The bastard is always changing the rules, and he loves making those rules something humiliating. He's definitely given Chuuya a few impossible tasks before. And Chuuya always finds himself trying really hard to complete them anyway.]
The point of punishment is that it shouldn't be enjoyable, right?
[So maybe he enjoys it. As long as it's not something they take too seriously.]
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Are you saying I should punish you in ways you won't enjoy?
[Because he can do that, of course. He's something of an expert, as it happens. But it's definitely a case of being careful what you wish for!
Not that Dazai really thinks that that's what Chuuya wants, but he can pretend.]
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Obviously not.
[That doesn't sound fun for either of them, really. Sure, there's a long list of things Chuuya sort of enjoys, or hates that he enjoys, or enjoys because he doesn't want to enjoy them, or that he wouldn't enjoy except that it's the right kind of humiliation and he enjoys that. But Dazai has always considered all of those fair game, so it's definitely not what he's getting at now.]
I thought I said I was the one who should punish you.
[The point of this was to actually discuss what they like, which would mean Chuuya has to be honest about it... Oh well.]
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[But Chuuya doesn't like that, does he? ... Or does he? Nah, that would surprise Dazai a great deal.
Also: Dazai is a wuss, and definitely couldn't withstand Chuuya's full-on punishment. But he really doesn't think that Chuuya is being honest here? And he doesn't think he's somehow in denial about what Chuuya wants from him, either??
Though blindsiding him with something like this would have been a good reason for Chuuya to bring up kink lists, Dazai supposes... Damn.]
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I'll stick to biting. Even if I risk getting punished by you for it.
[Okay, maybe he should be honest. He drinks a bit more of his wine, and leans a little bit more of his weight into Dazai. Honesty really is too awkward.]
Nothing actually serious, right? It's just something else to use in your games?
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[Which is probably a bit too cryptic a reply to be very satisfying, considering the circumstances, but honesty is too awkward. They've been making good strides with it, but Dazai, being a lazy bastard by nature, is already not in the mood to keep putting in the effort.
That doesn't mean he won't, though, and it certainly doesn't mean he's not in a surprisingly good mood. In fact, as Chuuya leans in closer, Dazai shifts a little so he can halfway put his arm around him, hand resting on his head.
Okay, so maybe one of his several simultaneous inner monologues is loudly singing YOU'RE A SHORT MOTHERFUCKER AND NOBODY LIKES YOU~ - but it's singing it lovingly, okay!? You're his short motherfucker nobody likes, and that's what matters.]
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He drops his head against Dazai's shoulder, enjoying that hand against his hair. Dazai's not the only one in a surprisingly good mood now. Chuuya is relaxed enough to be smiling, just a little.]
This really just ended up as me giving you more options...
[That's probably not how kink negotiations are supposed to go. Oh well.]
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That was always going to happen.
[He's not even being smug about it, for once. What else was this discussion going to be about, if not more things to try? The things they've already done, Chuuya has all enjoyed to some degree; Dazai has no doubt about that. So expanding their repertoire was really the only possible outcome.
But let's blame Chuuya for giving him more options, sure. Give a dog a bone(r), and all that. Dazai's fingers play lazily with Chuuya's hair.]
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